Sony BRAVIA V-Series KDL55V5100 55-Inch 1080p 120Hz LCD TV, Black

Product Description

With Full HD 1080p resolution and Motionflow 120Hz technology, SonyBRAVIAV-Series HDTVs are engineered for fast-action movies, sports, and game play. Enjoy sharp, crystal clear images with the BRAVIA Engine 2 fully digital video processor.

Product Details

• Amazon Sales Rank: #3487 in Consumer Electronics
• Color: Black
• Brand: Sony
• Model: KDL55V5100
• Dimensions: 33.75" h x 4.62" w x 52.62" l, 75.20 pounds
• Display size: 55

Features

• A 55-inch, 16:9 Full HD 1080p Resolution Panel provides optimum resolution from any HDTV source
• Dynamic contrast works in real time to produce deep blacks in darker scenes
• Motionflow 120Hz technology reduces judder and sharpens fast-moving images
• Get versatile HD connection options with seven HD inputs, including four HDMI inputs , HD component and combo inputs , and a PC input
• Includes USB input that lets you view photos on the big screen, listen to your favorite MP3s or watch video clips

Customer Reviews

GREAT TV AND GREAT PRICE FOR FAMILYROOM
We wanted to replace our RPT Pioneer in our familyroom (55" screen)
There are three windows and many large screen TV's have screens with alot of glare. This was the best screen, picture and size for the price and it was a SONY.
We have always loved Sony. We purchased it online at Best Buy because it included delivery and Geek Squad Home Theatre Installation.
Bad news was that the Sony 55" we ordered went on sale for $200.00 less , the next day. I called Best Buy and asked for a Price Match representative. I asked because it was $200.00 less today should I cancel my order and just place a new order? She assured me that I would get the price match and if I cancelled my order I would lose my delivery date .
I SHOULD HAVE TRUSTED MY INSTINCTS AND NOT TRUSTED BEST BUY OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVES. I did not cancel my order and did call two more times last week to inquire about the Price Match, (it cannot be processed until your card is charged) TODAY I GET AN EMAIL THAT MY REQUEST FOR PRICE MATCH WAS DENIED BECAUSE IT WAS A "BUNDLE" PURCHASE AND I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN IT DID NOT QUALIFY!!!

TV was delivered yesterday and it is a beauty. We are now considering a possible upgrade. We will put this in our bedroom and get the 60 or 65 SONY for the Familyroom. The picture is great and we are still on the fence regarding Calibration. It looks great now!
BOTTOM LINE..DO NOT TRUST BEST BUY FOR YOUR PURCHASES. THEY DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MISLEADING THEIR CUSTOMERS JUST TO MAKE THE SALE. WE WILL NOT PURCHASE ANYTHING FURTHER FROM BEST BUY. The only people who were straight with us were the third party delivery people who delivered the TV and set it up. They were great and did exactly what they promised.

Sony KDLV-55V5100
The TV arrived 2 days prior of it's promised delivery time in perfect condition. The delivery drivers from Pilot Freight also set it up in short order. Thank you Amazon and Pilot for the excellent service. Immediately after delivery Dishnetwork installed the HD connection to it. It runs mostly still on the factory settings, although I found on the Internet a set of settings for it recommneded by an expert evaluator, but I did not attempt to follow those recommendations yet, because it is OK as it is. Also there was 1 available software update from Sony which I carried-out, just in case. The TV itself is working perfectly and provides a movie teather-like experience and I can even see it (MOST IMPORTANTLY) without my glasses on, from my normal viewing point about 9' away. The visibility aspect is very important to me because I no longer could see my trusty old 27"-er even with my glasses on. Before I received it, I was worrying that I purchased a TV too large for my small viewing room, but this fear was laid to rest after the first few minutes of viewing, because it's picture resolution is so good that I can stand next to it without experiencing any grainyness or any other optical problems. It appears that there is no TV too large!! Everything on the new TV is wonderful especially it's picture quality, and this is even more true in HD. It needed a real high speed HDMI cable though (Sony DLC-HD10HF) to uncork it's full potential, instead of the little inexpensive no name brand HDMI cable I first used to connect the TV to the DVR receiver. The possible quality exception is maybe it's overall sound quality, which is suprisingly enough inferior to my 11 year old Philips CRT TV. Interestingly enough the sound volume of a given HD channell is also much lower than the same of it's non HD counterpart, without any extra volume adjustment. The so called surround sound effect although modifies the sound is not to my liking either. Please consider all these sound issues one man's ears only! Therefore I am considering to add some extra speakers later on. The Sony HT-CT100 or 500 soundbar sytem respectively, come here to mind. These are designed for Bravia TV-s (Bravia Link). Too bad that these soundbar systems have no stock attachment to the KDLV model. Also mornings, when I first start it up, the DVR receiver or the TV or both, respond sluggishly only to the commmads of the remote for a minute or two. This is no longer apparent for the rest of the day. Originally I considered the Samsung LN 55B630 and/or the Sharp Aqous LC55E77U as possible other choices. The Sony KDLV being a new model this year also, is overall an excellent purchase especially considering the purchase price and the 12 month no interest payment terms from Amazon. Now if it only would provide a trouble free decade of service like my old Philips TV did I would be completely happy with it.

Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100 52-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV

Product Description

Ready for a TV and a technology that will change the way you see TV and movies? Sony's 1080p KDL-52W4100 with Motionflow™ 120Hz technology creates a new standard for picture performance, with smooth, lifelike image quality that responds to the demands of even the fastest moving images with ease. Add to that unique features like the enhanced Xross Media Bar® with 3D graphics and integrated TV Guide program information, built-in DMex functionality, and other picture quality technologies like BRAVIA Engine 2™ and ACE contrast enhancement, and you can see why we call the W-series the new standard in 120Hz performance.

Product Details

• Amazon Sales Rank: #2062 in Consumer Electronics
• Color: Black
• Brand: Sony
• Model: KDL-52W4100
• Dimensions: 4.80" h x 49.80" w x 32.80" l, 71.00 pounds
• Display size: 52

Features

• 16:9 Full HD 1080p Resolution (1920x1080p) LCD Panel
• Motionflow™ 120Hz - clear, smooth motion for DVDs, TV
• DMex ™ compatible; allows seamless feature upgrades
• Enhanced XMB™ with 3D graphics incl. TV Guide
• HDMI™ x4, HD Component x2, PC Input

Customer Reviews

Excellent LCD with overall ease of use
I bought this TV in June 2008 and have found it to be an absolutely great buy. I bought my at RC Willey. Yes, I read the CNET review and the reviewer marked down the TV because of the dark shades changing. I looked at this in the store for several minutes and have lived with it for a month and have not noticed that problem at ALL! Personally I think they guy shot down the SONY because Samsung is running TV advertisements on CNET. This is a super sharp TV with excellent colors and deep deep blacks. This TV is much better than the old 2007 W. Here is why I bought this TV...It is super clear in digital broadcast and does a much better job in Analog/420p SD (old) transmitions than any other TV I have seen (no jaggies..thanks to Sony noise reduction/DSP). Sony knows Bluray- they invented it, they know what skin tones should look like like (they own a movie studio), thier menus are really easy/simple to use (vs. Samsung 650), it has a built in TV guide (You can get rid of that Monthly cable box fee) and it has future expansion capability.

On pure picture quality vs. Samsung 650:
* Picture: It is pretty darn close in digital broadcast. I looked at both side by side. Samsung has a slight edge on clarity in analog broadcast. Samsungs have more glare, Sony is a matte screen but blacks on samsung are pretty darn good because of the glossy screen. When viewing a BluRay DVD though, the Sony slightly more details. No fade from bright to black issues on sony as noted by CNET (he must have had a protype system). Colors are nice a bright and bravia 2 engine is even better than XBR4 or near it. I have heard the Z series may be better but they don't make it in 52'' yet.

* Menus: Samsungs menus are made for Engineers (lots of tweeks, but really confusing for average user). If you doubt it, download the user manual to the A650 and KDL524100 and see for yourself. If you and your family are highly technical, go for the Samsung. If you don't want to fiddle (aka get lost in menus), but get an excellent picture, go with the Sony. Sony's are really simple and easy to use, plus it automatically find digital channels and is somehow able to display all the channel icons (it is like I have a built in cable box).

* Features: The Sony may not have the Ethernet and built in weather/news of the 650 Samsung, but it does have the built in TV guide and future expansion. Realistically, if you want Internet in your TV, you are better off connecting an external device (Playstation, Apple TV, etc). The TV guide feature in the sony is great and the Bravia Sync is a big plus (especially when you use a Sony DVD upconverter 1080p (nice one at costco)- why?...TV remote controls it all. Sony Picture n' Picture is nice as well allowing you to view pictures/video from HDMI while at the same time viewing cable TV (regardless if it is SD or HD signal)

* Asthetics: My favorite feature on the sony is that the power buttons on on the top of the TV... helps with preventing kids from turning tV on/off. I believe Samsungs are too low. I personally didn't like the Red on the Samsung and the glossy screen. The remote on the Sony is really easy to find/use vs. the Samsung. But the Samsung's remote lit up at night...which the Sony's does not.

Bottom line: if you are a videophile and your family (wife) can deal with the techno menus (plus you want to upgrade the firmware to fix the Samsung A650 on/off bug), get the Samsung. If you want the a super clear Picture (videophile made easy), easiest to use LCD with features that make every day TV viewing smooth and easy... The sony is excellent- Plus it is future expandible.

Recommended Evaluation settings: Picture mode custom, backlight 7, Picture 95, Brightness 45, Color 50, Hue 0, Color temp Neutral, Sharpness 4, Noise Red. off, MPEG Noise red. off, Advanced settings-> Black corrector: med, Advance C.E Med, Gamma off, clear white low.

Best 52" LCD HD-TV for the money
I did a lot of research when I decided to buy a 52" TV. I'm a student and a part-time salesman at a fortune 100 company in consumer electronics. After weeks or perhaps months of preparation and research I narrowed down my options to the Samsung A750 and the Sony bravia w4100. Now I did have a Samsung A550 and a Sony Trinitron High Def CRT at home and they were both pretty impressive but I figured that Sony does a better job in 52" or larger category after observing the w4100 and a750 for several days at work.

First off lets talk about the screen. The 50'000:1 contrast of the Samsung vs. 30'000:1 contrast ratio of the Sony. The way Samsung measures its contrast ratio is radically different from Sony, that is why Samsung never discloses its "TRUE CONTRAST RATIO", but Sony does. In this case sony's true contrast is 3,000:1. Whatever the true contrast ratio of Samsung, it is not superior to that of Sony's. This is something that most experts agree on. It is easy to blast your dynamic contrast ratio but not your true contrast. Some claim that the Samsung produces deeper blacks but my answer is that this is due to Samsung's glossy mirrored screen and it has nothing to do with performance. The mate screen of sony absorbse white light coming from backlight or any ambient lighting from the room. This causes the blacks not to appear as deep or fake as the samsungs. Plus, Samsung manufactures all of Sony LCD screens so in terms of screen capability they are equal. If you have a bright room go for the sony, the screen is slightly brighter and not reflective like the Samy. The backlight for Sony seems to work brighter but its not as evenly distributed as the Samy, this is clear in the dark.

Second factor I checked for was the TV engine. We have the Samsung's Dnie Pro vs. Bravia 2. Well there is no question that bravia 2 is the clear winner here, being utilized by Sony XBR6 and XBR7 which go for about $4000 dollars while the Samsung's DNIE pro is built to compete with the lower end Sony Bravia Engine Pro. Sony's Standard TV quality is excellent and the Samy is just as good but i noticed that Sony's colour was more natural ie. colour of grass in baseball. Also sony covers over %90 of colour Gamut while Samsung covers only %70, this maybe why skin tones and greens look more natural on the Sony.

Next up was refresh rate and here both run at 120 Hz and here Sony has dramatically improved over the XBR4 series in motionflow. Samsung also does really well in 120 Hz category so I say they are both a tie here.

Sound is another important factor for my decision, i blasted the 7 series at work and noticed poor sound quality in extreme volumes while the Sony better retained its quality. However the Samsung was capable of delivering deeper Bass probably due to its built in Subwoofer. Sony allows you to adjust voice volume and enable steady sound to prevent commercials from freaking you out in the middle of your favourite tv shows. But be aware this may cause low volume in sudden loud scenes in movies.

Finally last thing I looked for was design. Samsung 7 series looks fabulous with its glass like frame and a touch of red, but that is the problem for me, "red". I don't fancy a red TV and I think it's one of those fashion trends that would soon be "old fashioned". Sony however retains a more masculin design with fine glossy black frame and metal speakers at the bottom.

Its a pretty close call but having used both Sony and Samsung (sony for longer) i feel that sony is more capable of delivering quality products as most Japanese manufacteres do. Also sony has great customer service vs Samsung i have had a sony TV break once and there was a repair man at my door step in less than 12 hours servicing my TV at home (bulb replacement in a old projection tv). Sony is the innovator here while Samsung is the follower, that's one reason why i chose the sony. Biggest factor for me was the superior Sony TV engine and better design. Oh and by the way sony is slightly thinner.

Sony is the best your money can buy for a TV overall, as it always has been since the day of Trinitron. [...]
Pros:
- Excellent Picture Quality
- Deep dark blacks
- Motion Enhancer
- Covers 90% color gamut
- Vertical viewing angle
- Great Sound/Audio performance

Cons:
- Horizontal Viewing Angle
- lacks picture Shadow details

Great investment
***Updated*** (with new settings post firmware upgrade)

I have had this TV for 5 months now and could not be happier. This set produces excellent picture quality, amazing black levels and vibrant colors. The new Bravia Engine 2 also improves with 120Hz motion processing from Sony XBR4 line. My TV is located in a well lit room so the semi-matte display was a must. This TV delivers many useful settings to let you have the full freedom of making this TV truly yours. The PQ on 1080p material such as blu-ray movies or games is phenomenal. Broadcasted 1080i/720p HD sources look very good too - all depending on your provider and signal strength. SD quality is good but again it varies from channel to channel.

For everyday use, this TV will get some immediate props for its' picture delivery from any viewer. If you like sports, you can expect unrivaled video processing of fast action. If you enjoy movies, this Sony offers a combination of settings to complement the true 24p cinematic picture.

Since blu-ray movies are still expensive I have done a lot of testing by watching normal DVD's on my PS3 - and I have to tell you, those DVDs look better that HD broadcasts from Comcast. It feels almost unreal when you get to watch older movies with such clarity as if they were shot just a few years ago.

If you need some starter settings to get more accurate reproduction of colors and detail, feel free to use my settings (post update v.202):

Picture Adjustments
Picture mode: Custom
Back Light: Min
Picture: 94
Brightness: 52
Color: 45
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Neutral
Sharpness: 5
Noise Reduction: Medium
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Advanced Settings
Black Corrector: Off
Advanced C.E.: Off
Gamma: Off
Clear White: Off
Live Color: Off

White Balance

R-Gain: -1
G-Gain: -1
B-Gain: -4
R-Bias: -3
G-Bias: 3
B-Bias: -2

Motion Enhancer: Standard
CineMotion: Auto1

Screen Menu
Wide Mode: Full
Auto Wide: On
4:3 Default: Off
Display Area: Full Pixel

Keep in mind that sets and environments vary - so you don't have to use these settings verbatim. But it should give you a good start without a professional calibration. Just make sure not to leave the setting at the default given Vivid - since companies set most TVs at the brightest picture setting to compete against other sets in the bright store rooms. Otherwise you may be get a second hand tan from the picture =)
Sound quality is excellent if you are not planning on using a more powerful sound system. The TV offers plenty of ports - so you can easily connect to many devices at once.

I hope you love this TV as much as I do. Enjoy!

Sony BRAVIA Z Series KDL-46Z5100 46-Inch 1080p 240Hz LCD HDTV

Product Description

Enjoy the latest in HDTV performance with the Sony BRAVIA Z-Series, featuring Motionflow 240Hz technology for maximum motion detail and clarity, plus broadband internet connectivity with built-in BRAVIA Internet Video capabilities, that let you view select on-demand movies and TV shows and listen to music and more, and even lets you personalize your entertainment experience by selecting and positioning widgets containing the latest news, weather, sports and more directly on your TV screen.

Product Details

• Amazon Sales Rank: #10070 in Consumer Electronics
• Color: Black
• Brand: Sony
• Model: KDL-46Z5100
• Dimensions: 27.37" h x 3.37" w x 43.12" l, 45.60 pounds
• Display size: 46

Features

• 16:9 Full HD 1080p Resolution Panel (1920x1080)
• BRAVIA Engine 3 fully digital video processor
• Motionflow 240Hz
• BRAVIA Internet Video/Widgets
• XMB w/ enhanced 3D Favorites Menu

Customer Reviews

Great LCD TV choice!
I have been doing research on a new TV for months. Choosing the size was the easiest part based on the space I wanted to fill. Room is very bright, so LCD was the likely choice; although I didn't rule out the new Panasonic plasmas with their anti glare, but they are lacking in picture adjustments. The Samsungs are all generally too reflective. I saw the new Sony W5100 and started watching that model. I was waiting for some reviews to read some opinions, but it was too new. I had decided to go with the W5100 based on the price, energy efficient, and the fact that I had read that there really wasn't a discernible difference between 120hz and 240hz. Choosing the sony brand was based on the fact that netflix will be available this fall, and that I have a PS3. I finally decided on the Z5100 because I saw it in the store and noticed the bezel was nice and thin, and that the tv speakers pointed forward. Most flat panels' speakers point down, so I figured it would help when watching broadcast tv to have the speakers pointed forward. Not the most 'scientific' method of selection.

I am very happy with this TV. The picture is great, the sound is great, no issues with glare, the internet content works (although I am still waiting for netflix, I did get an Amazon credit for VOD to try out), and the PS3 looks amazing.

My suggestion to anyone researching a new tv is to really nail down your requirements first, then choose some models that fit, and finally narrow it down from there based on features. Then head to a store to really look them over. I found myself almost getting too caught up in reading reviews. I found many negative points that, in retrospect, were very nit picky, so don't get too caught up; if you notice, this model only has positives at this point. I was also comparing energy usage figures on crutchfield. Most energy tests are based on a minimum of 6-8 hours of usage per day, which I don't do. If you avoid the Vivid mode and stick to standard or cinema, you will be fine with energy usage.

Amazon's price was perfect; I had been watching a handful of tvs for a couple months and monitoring prices. The delivery was ok. The package was damaged on one corner, as if a fork lift had punctured it. The tv has a tiny little nick that is only noticeable if you run your finger ever so slowly along the bezel. So it wasn't big enough to send it back.

If you decide on this tv, you are making a great choice. I haven't calibrated it yet, but may do so when cnet posts some numbers.

Amazing TV, just like XBR9!
I have been searching for a Sony LCD for a while now. I think I started looking at the 46"XBR6,that was a while ago. We bought this TV because it looked amazing in the stores. I even have a friend that works for Sony and he said that this model is almost an XBR as far as picture. I have seen them side by side and I can't tell the difference, minimal if anything. This Tv has amazing color and picture quality! I have it hooked up to a Sony HT-SS360 surround and a Playstation 3 Blu-ray. Let me tell you that when you are in standard mode, it looks like live action - Amazing! The upscaling of the DVD on the Blu-ray also makes the TV seem even more spectacular. Some others said to get a Samsung, but I have been a Sony person for years.

love it
After months of research, I decided to go with sony because it seemed to be the most reliable. I could not have picked a better television. I have a sony blu-ray and a sony surround sound system. The three of them compliment each other better than I could have ever expected. The tv in HD is absolutely beautiful. I see other tvs that are supposed to be comparable, and that just is not the case. This tv stands alone in this class of televisions. Samsung is close... but it's not SONY. In case you haven't noticed... I highly recommend this television

Sony Bravia V-Series KDL-52V4100 52-Inch 1080p LCD HDTV

Product Description

Ready for HD done the Sony way? Sony's KDL-52V4100 brings 1080p picture quality home with amazing, Sony-exclusive features like the XMB (Xross Media Bar®) with 3D graphics, DMex capability so you can add functionality to your TV, and picture quality technologies like ACE (Advanced Contrast Enhancer) and BRAVIA Engine 2™. Add to that a sophisticated, piano black design, 24p capability so you can get the most out of the movies you watch on Blu-ray and DVD, 4 HDMI™ inputs along with three other HD-capable connections, and what you have is a television that can bring dreams to life.

Product Details

• Amazon Sales Rank: #6220 in Consumer Electronics
• Color: Black
• Brand: Sony
• Model: KDL-52V4100
• Dimensions: 4.80" h x 49.80" w x 32.80" l, 71.00 pounds
• Display size: 52

Features

• 16:9 Full HD 1080p Resolution (1920x1080p) LCD Panel
• DMex ™ compatible; allows seamless feature upgrades
• BRAVIA® Sync™ (HDMI-CEC)
• Enhanced XMB™ with 3D graphics incl. TV Guide
• HDMI™ x2, HD Component x2, PC Input

Customer Reviews

Great value, super sharp image, good sound. Miss 120hz tho...
I used to think of a TV purchase as a VERY long term commitment, like marriage. And at $2k and up there's a lot of truth to this. However in this case I was faced with a difficult decision, one that I would probably repeat given the opportunity.

First let me say that I love just about everything about this set. The picture quality (as long as the scene or people aren't moving) is super, the audio is really good out of the bottom-front speakers (although an add-on stereo makes it even better), and the flexibility from an input/output point of view is outstanding.

All that being said, there are some compromises, and thus my quandary. I bought this TV fully knowing that for a *mere* $500 more I could have the 120hz scan mode. It just wasn't worth it to me...I think. I would have been better off if the 120hz model didn't exist, then I'd look at the set and be amazed. Maybe I'm nuts, but now I find myself looking critically at scenes where there's fast motion and wondering whether the "better" model would be noticeably smoother.

The fact of the matter is that over time I will just accept how it looks and allow myself to enjoy the many fine aspects to this set. Moving on, you probably want to know some of the other things that are also not so wonderful. Here goes.

1. Unlike some sets that have a base that allows rotation, this one just sits. No pivot at all, and very hard to move. I ended up making my own pivoting base out of a couple pieces of (nice) wood and a $10 rotary table. Wonderful, but took some effort.

2. Even though this set has the ability to have the screen turned off with the audio still on (nice!) it's buried down really deep in the menus (not nice!). I don't want to always burn 300 watts to listen to the music channel on our cable box, I wish it was easier. Yes, a very minor point, until you have to do it once or twice every day.

3. I'm not a fan of shiny ANYTHING on the front surface of TVs. At least the screen has a decent anti-glare finish, but the edge is the now-mandatory patent leather black shine. Why oh why!!!

4. The remote is a TV remote. Period. Which means either you have to use some other remote for your other stuff or buy and program a multi-function. Cheat, really cheap.

5. When switching between modes (1080i, 480p, 4:3, 16:11 or whatever) the tv and sound go dead. Seems like an eternity, but it's probably only a second or two. Should be faster.

I could probably come up with a few more, but those are the biggest ones for me. Not very big really. Nice set, now if they could only give me a way to upgrade it to 120hz without buying a new one...

Excellent picture, good sound and great value
I have waited a bit before writing a review on this television. I wanted the honeymoon period to phase out a bit before I made any comments on it. Also, I thought I give it some time to notice any downsides to having purchase this t.v.

First things first, I have read some reviews (regardless of brand) that complain about regular televisions (CRT's) looking better when watching shows transmitted without HD or analog.

This has nothing to do with the television, it has to do with the signal it receives. It is a television, not a magician.

I changed my account with dish network to receive HD as well as whatever else is digital and be able to stablish a comparison betweeen the two.

HD looks amazing. Period.

There is a firmware through Sony that would address the "sparkle" issue that has been addressed in other posts for Sony tv's.

Let me tell you that we have not had to download the firmware, there is no sparkle. I even called Sony to have them send me a usb adaptor with the firmware and they told me that if I did not have the issue, it would actually harm the tv to use the firmware. I'll take their work for it, because I believe that if something is not broken, there is no need to fix it.

Colors: Vivid setting is almost ridiculous in term of vibrancy. Nice feature to have and very appropriate for a lot of movies, shows, etc and maybe too much for other things.

Standard: Less bright but still sharp and well defined picture.

Cinema: Personally, I don't care for this feature. It recreates the "feel" of watching a movie in the theater, but theater colors and shapness are not much to talk about, so we don't use it.

Custom: Exactly what it means. You create it to your liking and change it as you want it.

Controls: Extremely easy to use.

Remote control: Nothing to brag about. It does what it is supposed to do and it is not a universal remote.

Sound: without hooking it up to external speakers, the sound is very good. There is no distortion and we have noticed that we can keep the volume low because everything is clearly understood. The front speakers do have a "surround sound" type of effect where you can actually hear things happening behind you as well as in front and sides while you are watching. It is not for audiophiles who like to hear every single thing that is going on, but it far surpasses the built in speakers on most t.v.s

HDMI and Analog inputs galore. Surround sound systems and consoles can be hooked up without having to purchase extensions and connectors.

Video play: Probably the worst game console in terms of graphics is the Wii console, it certainly cannot compete with the playstation .... or so I thought... After having played the wii for a year on a CRT, the same games are fantastic when hooked up to this t.v. I did not think it would make a difference, but even simple games like tombraider are sharper and clearer. Colorful ones like Mario are, in my opinion, seizure inducing but the kids love it.

60hz vs. 120hz. Honestly, we have watched Hockey and football and we see no blurring of motion. I honestly thought we'd have buyers remorse for not going for the W series, but the fact is, we don't. We are extremely pleased with this set and the price from Amazon at the time came under 1500k and feel that we got a very good price on a very large set.

My only complain now is that we need a second television and I can't see us going with anything smaller or lesser quality after having been spoiled rotten by this set.:)

PEACE

Great TV
Bought it from Amazon. Delivery was flawless.
First I got a Samsung A650, but I really did not like it, so I exchanged it for Sony 52V4100, and it was love at first sight. Great looks, easy menu, good remote, amazing PQ. To be fair - Samsung's PQ was VERY good, but the TV itself had way too many annoying little things for me to ignore.
I have my PS3 hooked up via HDMI, and also an over-the-air hi-def antenna. Like I said - the PQ is excellent, and I really like this TV.

Sony BRAVIA Z Series KDL-52Z5100 52-Inch 1080p 240Hz LCD HDTV

Product Description

Enjoy the latest in HDTV performance with the Sony BRAVIA Z-Series, featuring Motionflow 240Hz technology for maximum motion detail and clarity, plus broadband internet connectivity with built-in BRAVIA Internet Video capabilities, that let you view select on-demand movies and TV shows and listen to music and more, and even lets you personalize your entertainment experience by selecting and positioning widgets containing the latest news, weather, sports and more directly on your TV screen.

Product Details

• Amazon Sales Rank: #10039 in Consumer Electronics
• Color: Black
• Brand: Sony
• Model: KDL-52Z5100
• Dimensions: 30.87" h x 3.37" w x 49.00" l, 57.50 pounds
• Display size: 52

Features

• 16:9 Full HD 1080p Resolution Panel (1920x1080)
• BRAVIA Engine 3 fully digital video processor
• Motionflow 240Hz
• BRAVIA Internet Video/Widgets
• XMB w/ enhanced 3D Favorites Menu

Customer Reviews

Great HD Picture w/o Glossy Screen Reflections
Love the HD picture quality (PQ) of the Samsung 52B750, but don't watch TV in cave and don't want to deal with all those reflections off a glossy screen? Well, the Sony 52Z5100 is the answer. HD PQ with the Z5100 is excellent with great black levels, but without the "shaving mirror" reflectivity of the screen during dark or black scenes. We were looking at the 52B750, based on reviews and seeing it at UE, but after testing our viewing room at various times of day with a glass picture frame and our "bright screen" LCD notebook, it was obvious that the reflections would drive us crazy over the life of the TV. We have two older HDTVs, both with matte screen and we don't miss the reflective glass screens of the old CRT TVs. The 52Z5100's screen is best described as semi-matte. Un-powered, the screen is reflective though dull. Power it up and there are essentially zero reflections, even with very dark scenes. What ever Sony has done to defeat reflectivity and minimize glare, it works very well.

As to performance, PQ with HD sources (OTA DTV and Dish HD) is as good as it gets, absolutely excellent and easily equal to the Samsung B750 (we viewed the Z5100 side-by-side with the B750 and the XBR9 at UE and couldn't discern any difference in HD PQ). Blacks are excellent and shadow detail is the best I've seen on a TV. No flashlights, clouding, or uneven lighting across the screen. Color realism and saturation are excellent. Viewing angle is average or typical of CCFL LCDs, which is about 45 degrees off center. Not bad and much better than the LED LCDs, which could be important if you plan to show off your new HDTV with a Super Bowl party next February (not everyone can sit right in front of the TV to see great PQ, like they have to with the LED LCDs).

We're just thrilled watching Starz and Cinemax HD movies, prime-time HD drama on the major networks, any live HD broadcasts, and especially any live HD sporting even broadcasts. The WOW factor is back! Can't wait for the NFL season to start. We watched the men's and women's French Open finals via live, OTA, HD DTV, with the Scene setting set to "Sports (MotionFlow on High, 240 Hz) and it was like we were standing behind Roger Federer on the court. BTW, the on-board ATSC digital tuner in the Z5100 is excellent. It is obviously of the latest generation as it is the most sensitive and most stable of any of our DTV tuners, including the Zenith CECBs we bought for our old, remaining CRT TVs. If you buy the 52Z5100, try hooking up an antenna to it and see what you can get. The uncompressed live HD from an OTA antenna is something to behold.

PQ from non-BD DVDs is excellent. Upscaled DVD movies on my Sony 1080p upscaling DVD player look as good as many of the HD movies on the pay HD movie channels. I don't have a BD player yet and with the PQ of my upscaled DVDs, I probably won't get one until the price drops substantially.

PQ from SD sources is a mixed bag. It really depends on the source. Decent 480i stuff comes across excellent, but some older video and movies look pretty bad and the MPEG Filter and CineMotion filter don't do much to help regardless of which setting you use. I'd give this set Average to a little above average on SD PQ. Using the MPEG filter set to Medium or Low improves bad SD video over no filter at all.

I'd rate the on-board sound system as above average for flat panel HDTV sound systems, even though I typically us the sound from my DD7.1 sound system. I don't do games, so I can't comment on that.

As for the internet connectivity, I'm not impressed. I've surfed through most of what is offered and it isn't worth much. A nice universal remote comes with the set. On-screen menu is poorly arranged (not intuitive, not logical, redundant in places).

Overall, I can't see anyone being disappointed if they buy this LCD HDTV and your friends will be impressed as well.

Great LCD Television
This display was sent to me by Sony to replace my KDS-R60XBR2. I had to have the optical block replaced three times. The bonus was that I got to keep it as well. The set arrived this past Friday and when I un-boxed it, I was immediately taken by its no-nonsense sexy look. I consider flat panel TVs to be a work of art, even when they are not running.

I placed a Blu Ray copy of Digital Video Essentials in my PS3 and an HD DVD copy in my HD-XA2. I calibrated the TV, which was a breeze since there are so many HD inputs and they can be set completely independent of the other. Also, surprisingly, the set was pretty close out of the box. Something out of the ordinary that I noticed, though. Out of all of the Sony TVs that I have owned, the Warm 2 setting seemed to be closer to 6500 K. On this set, I found neutral to be much closer to the desired color setting. Other than putting it in standard mode (another out of the ordinary setting for me, on other Sony's, custom seemed to be the way to go) and changing a few things, it looked fantastic. The black levels, eye popping 3D effect and the razor sharp detail are awe inspiring.

Make sure you turn off settings such as Clear White. As far as Noise Reduction, that's your personal preference, I turn most 'enhancement' circuits off anyway. On this particular set, I noted that Noise Reduction had very little effect on the picture, anyway. Also, turn off the MPEG Noise Reduction. It seems to actually decrease screen resolution but I could be wrong. On a set that can achieve a 100,000 to 1 contrast ratio, it's easy to get carried away with Advanced Contrast Enhancer, so be careful and set it on low or off. The same goes for the Black Enhancer.

I have no complaints about the 1080p performance of this TV. It is top notch. Even over the air HD looks fantastic. I have actually 'cut the cable' and am only getting OTA content, IPTV such as PlayOn and TVersity Pro, Blu-Ray and HD DVD. Of course, SD looks awful but this is no fault of the TV. Garbage in, garbage out, as it where and the larger the set, the worse it's going to look.

I cannot comment on the audio since I have a 5.1 surround system but I have read other reviews that the sound is acceptable. I would assume that most people who spend over $1000.00 on a display have at least a home theater in a box, anyway.

I would have absolutely no problem recommending this television. I see no reason to spend $300.00 more on the XBR9. When I saw them side by side, I did not notice any difference. I'm sure there is some benefit to the Wide Color Gamut backlighting, it's just not perceptible to the naked eye. We have come so far with display technology, that with what would have cost thousands more for the same quality and feature set just a couple of years ago can be had for a very reasonable price now.

BTW, don't let anyone tell you that the Samsung sets are so much better than Sony's. In my opinion, they do so much video processing that the picture doesn't even look natural. Sure, you can crank it up with the 52Z5100 but you certainly don't have to. The glare with the Samsung screens is unbearable, in my opinion.

All in all...I couldn't be more happy having this display in my home. The quality is absolutely jaw dropping. There are no 'clouding' issues and not a 'flashlight' effect was to be found.

One more thing...I really like the Cinemotion and Motionflow technology. I really don't see much of a difference between this set's 240 hz frame rate and TVs that incorporate 120 hz. I'm sure the same thing will be true about LG's new 480 hz displays.

Another thing...I meant to give this TV 5 stars. I can't figure out how to change it!

Awesome TV
I got this model after some serious research on SonyStyle and reading some reviews here on Amazon. It is indeed true that this model is almost EXACTLY the same as the higher-priced XBR9. In fact I was looking at the XBR9 until I found out about this model.

I've had this TV for about 3 weeks and I am happy with my purchase. The quality is awesome, but admittedly I'm not a tech-freak so I don't have gobs of HDTV experience to compare it to.

Also, the built-in speakers are rather dull, but when you invest in this sort of TV you are expected to buy a speaker system to compliment it, so this is really a moot point.

If you want to save $500 while getting an awesome model of a Sony TV, this is the model to get.

Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W5100 52-Inch 1080p 120Hz LCD HDTV

Product Description

Enjoy the latest in HDTV performance with the Sony BRAVIA W-Series. Experience Sony’s motion detail and clarity with Motionflow 120Hz technology. Features built-in BRAVIA Internet Video capabilities so you can access and stream on-demand movies, TV shows. You can also personalize your viewing experience with widgets containing the latest news, weather and stock information.

Product Details

• Amazon Sales Rank: #1396 in Consumer Electronics
• Color: Black
• Brand: Sony
• Model: KDL52W5100
• Released on: 2009-05-24
• Dimensions: 30.25" h x 3.50" w x 48.87" l, 57.10 pounds
• Display size: 52

Features

• A 52-inch, 16:9 Full HD 1080p Resolution Panel provides optimum resolution from any HDTV source that delivers 1080p content
• Motionflow 120Hz technology reduces judder and sharpens fast-moving images for a crisp, more natural picture for unprecedented motion detail in sports, movies and games
• The built-in BRAVIA Internet Video feature allows you to access select on-demand entertainment available through your broadband connection--view hit movies, TV shows, music videos, YouTube, streaming internet radio and more
• Select and personalize your entertainment experience with widgets on your BRAVIA HDTV that provide you access to the latest news, weather, stock information, and much more
• Includes USB input that lets you view photos on the big screen, listen to your favorite MP3s or watch video clips

Customer Reviews

Great TV for the Price! Very Happpy!
I received the KDL-52W5100 about 2 weeks ago. It replaced a KDL-52V5100 that I got in March, which replaced an older Sony Hi-Def LCD rear projection 1080i model (KDF-60XS955). The KDL-52V5100 was great at first, but it had a very annoying dimming problem that Sony eventually fixed with a firmware update. The problem was that the firmware update then broke the audio for me. The audio would cut out a few times a night on all HDMI inputs. Tried new cables, new Dish receiver, everything. They finally, after weeks of fighting with them, sent me another KDL-52V5100 which then had the same problem. Sony was very good about taking care of me with these issues, once I got a hold of the right person. Before that, they give you the run around and are willing to let your brand new TV sit in a repair shop for weeks while you wait for it. I will be keeping the contact names/numbers/email addresses for future reference. It's amazing how fast your problems get addressed when you email the Vice President of customer service for North America directly at his actual personal email address! :-) They finally, just 2 weeks ago replaced it with this TV. The KDL-52V5100 had a great picture (when I wasn't having problems with it) but this TV performs very noticeably better! I have used it with an XBOX360, a PS3 and with Dish Network Hi-Def receiver/DVR. The standard def is better than most of the other LCD's I looked at but as with all you can see the flaws of the SD picture. This one looks better than most for SD though. It also doesn't have the HDMI color space issue that the KDL-52V5100 had with my XBOX360. I have it set to Y'CbCr and it looks AMAZING! The PS3 also looks INCREDIBLE! This TV had all the features I wanted and has delivered higher performance and picture than expected. This TV does have noticeably better picture quality than the V series. The contrast is better (possible due to the Bravia 3 engine as opposed to the Bravia 2 engine in the V series) and there are more advanced features for scene selection and other video options. Plus the Xross media bar menu system is WAY better than the plain generic menu in the V series. It looks to be more customizable. The internet connection, DLNA and widgets are just a bonus for me. When I received it, it already needed a firmware upgrade which very conveniently upgraded right over the internet rather than having to use a flash drive. Because of that I can't comment on issues with the old firmware. The stand is average size but I wish it swiveled. The TV is not too heavy. The appearance is very sleek, it appears less clunky than the heavier V series and I like the option to have the Sony logo glow. It's pretty cool. The one thing I was worried about was the fact that it has an 8-bit LCD panel, rather than a 10-bit panel. I was really worried it would have banding or "paint by number" effects. I picked up a copy of Digital Video Essentials (DVE) HD Basics on Blu-Ray to calibrate the TV and to my surprise it included a test for checking for slow processing and for color banding "paint by number" effects. This TV was able to reproduce a perfect gradation in both color and gray scale with ABSOLUTELY no banding or "paint by number" effects whatsoever! I was really impressed. According to DVE an 8-bit panel should be able to do this as long as the processing board is fast enough and good enough quality. These problems are more due to the processing than an 8-bit panel according to DVE. The 10-bit is not necessary if you have adequate processing. After more research I have found that, that is why most higher end manufacturers, like Sony have started using 8-bit panels again in most but their very high end models. After calibrating this TV with DVE the picture is far better than I had ever hoped for, with great black levels and extremely vibrant, true to life color. The off angle viewing is exceptional. The picture morphs a little from extreme side view due to the flat screen, but the contrast and brightness even from almost sideways is awesome! On the last note, the Dish Network receiver/DVR looks great as well. Any problems with the picture was due to the signal from the satellite and not the TV itself. All the HD channels have some compression and it shows, but wouldn't matter how good the TV is for that. DVD, Blu-Ray, XBOX350 and PS3 have absolutely the best picture I have seen on any other LCD. They only thing that could be as good or better is Plasma, but I really wanted a Sony and they only make LCD's now. I am very pleased with my purchase and would highly recommend this TV for anyone. The matte finish is great as I have a lot of ambient lights and side windows in my living room. The only other TV I was considering was the Samsung and the highly reflective, glossy screen just would not work for me. Other than that, the Samsung has a great picture too. I mean Sony uses Samsung panels in most of their TV's, so...

Beats the Samsung LN52B750 on features and response
Look.. all the top TVs from Samsung, Sony, Pana etc.. are all so close in picture quality that you will absolutely not go wrong with any of them. So what sets them apart... the extra features and how useful they are.

I was replacing my old Panasonic $5K 42" plasma bought about 7 years back. Its going to the bed room. So I first tried the Samsung LN52B750.. amazing picture quality.. yup its better than even this Sony 52W5100 . Now, in todays age, you expect very good pic quality in every TV. So what are you looking for in the TV today, extra features, internet connectivity, ability to stream pics, video from your computer ( DLNA) , Netflix, Blockbuster connectivity for movie streaming etc. But I was very upset with the extras on the Samsung. The response on the remote was slugggggish and slooooow. I had to press some keys like 3 times before I can get it to work. I was getting pissed. I went to the store, talked to Samsung. They kept on saying, pic quality yada yada yada. I told them.. guys, I am buying a $1700 TV for just pic quality but much more. I got the Samsung for $1700 with a free Samsung blu ray player ( $200 worth).

So I started reading all the reviews more carefully on the other stuff apart from picture quality. Sony W5100 had decent reviews on pic quality and good reviews on its other features. So when I went back to frys..They had 52W5100 for $1299. I saw the 40" model on display and thought.. what the heck let me try this out.

So I bought this TV home, but both side by side and turned the TVs on. The Samsung picture contrast was better.. but Sonys was nothing to sneeze either. It was pretty darn good. Compared with the fact that the screen was a matt finish instead of the glossy Samsung, the extra contrast on Samsung was required to fight all the ambient light. Sony with its regular "Standard " factory setting and matt finish gave me very similar quality picture.

Now for the other features. All of these required a wired ethernet connection to the TV on the back.

You Tube was fantastic on Sony. I think it was fully featured.
You Tube was horrible on Samsung. Search missed the videos I had uploaded. Its a yahoo widget and is scaled down version...

Sony had a streaming video option. It was great.
Samsung-- streaming huh what ?

Sony's yahoo widgets were less but all of them worked fast...15-20 seconds tops.
Samsung had more yahoo widgets but none of them worked fast enough. It took about 1.5 mins for some them to load... darn slow.....

Samsung has the blockbuster yahoo widget.. Pretty cool. I am a block buster customer.
Sony promises to get the netflix streaming option pretty soon. I am waiting for that. I am confident that Sony and NEtflix will get a very good version of it.

Yet to try the DLNA on Sony
Samsung DLNA software crashed the computer twice but it worked.. But the pictures loaded very slow 18 painful seconds between each picture. Com'on I have a gigabit connnection.

Today morning I was woken up by some very old Indian Classical music. I knew we did not have a CD or mp3 of that music. So I slowly worked my way to the living room from the bed room and guess what i saw. My wife on youtube surfing from the TV.
She tried on the Samsung and gave up in 10 seconds..

Now I know I have a winner with me... Wife approved the TV. The tough part... I am going to have to go to my old Panasonic in the bedroom since this is wife friendly.

Damn... you just can't win.... can you ?

Fabulous 120 Hz TV, Love it! Just Like XBR9 except for 240 Hz.
Full Disclosure: I own the Sony KDL-52W5150 which is an idential TV to the KDL-52W5100.

My Sony 52 inch W5150/W5100 is a thing of beauty! The pictures are fabulous and it looks great in the living room also. My old 60 Hz Sharp 46 inch cannot compare to this TV in terms of deep blacks and motion picture quality. Its specs are identical to much more expensive XBR9 except for 240 Hz refresh rate.

First, the pictures are amazing! The blacks are so ridiculously black... my biggest pet peeve on a HDTV is the greyish black when there's supposed to be a black background on some older TV's. You don't have that problem with this TV. This TV has Bravia Engine 3 (Sony's latest video processor) and has a 120 Hz refresh rate. Inbetween those two, the motion judder that I used to see on my old Sharp TV during fast action scenes in movies or sports are gone. All I see is smoothe motion which is a thing of beauty. Once you turn off the "Vivid" colors mode, the colors look real and true to life. I just love it. In fact, my wife told me how she noticed for the first time all the intricate details of the makeup on the TV news anchors' faces. That's high picture quality.

Second, it looks great in the room. I love the Sony light that comes on on the bottom center of the bezel when the TV is on. (In fairness, my wife hates it so be aware that all or most late model Sony HDTV's have this feature) And it looks great whether it's on or not... showing the deep blacks and the rich colors. It really does become the center of your family/living room entertainment. Some prefer the touch of color from Samsung... I prefer the all black look of my TV.

Finally, comparing the specs on this TV versus the top of the line Sony XBR9, there wasn't enough difference to pay the extra $500 premium. Both TV's have the same contrast ratios (3,800 native, 100,000 dynamic). For novices, the contrast ratio is a rough ratio of the brightness of the darkest color the TV is capable of versus the brightest color. So the higher the number, the more capable the TV is in terms of reproducing a wide range of colors at a wide range of brightness. They also look very similar, both use the latest Bravia 3 Engine video processor to produce their pictures, have the same # of HD ports, and allow for widgets & broadband access to Internet.

The three major differences between the W and the XBR9 are the following: 1) 120 Hz vs. 240 Hz refresh rate, 2) 8 bit versus 10 bit panel, and 3) of course the $500 or so in price premium. Frankly, my research into 120 Hz vs. 240 Hz refresh rates lead me to conclusion that most people can't really notice the difference. People can notice the difference between 120 Hz and 60 Hz (as I pointed out earlier), but the 120 vs. 240 seems much more marginal. I am not such a videophile that I will pay a serious premium for a marginal difference. Then the 8 bit vs. the 10 bit panel is an even more dubious distinction. 8 bit panels allow for 17 million colors... the 10 bit panels allow a billion in theory.... But you don't really need it. That's because no content source available right now (not blue ray, not HD broadcast, HD cable/satellite) can differentiate colors to that degree and no LCD panel can reproduce that many colors at once. My advice is - save your money and buy the 10 bit panels when the content actually catches up. Buying 10 bit panel right now could be like buying a 50 inch plasma TV in 2000 for like $20K when no real HD content sources were available to take advantage of the big screen & TV capability.

The only thing this TV does not have is LED backlighting. This TV along with Z series and the XBR9 are Sony's best CCFL backlit LCD TV's. Now the latest TV's have started to use LED backlighting technology to really hike up the contrast ratio to 1 million to 1 and beyond. Sony's latest release XBR10 does this as do the Samsung B6000, B7000, B8000, and B8500 series TV's. Those TV's are fabulous TV's, and they look so cool with their super thin form factor (Samsung's are 1.2 inches thick!). But I am not prepared to pay double or even triple the cost of my W series to get a similar sized LED backlit LCD TV just yet. Wait 3 years and the prices will be MUCH cheaper, since by then larger screen true LED TV's called OLED (not the LCD with LED backlighting TV's that are available now) will probably be more widely available.

By the way, the Samsung TV most comparable to this TV is the Samsung 52B650. Both are 120 Hz, near top of line TV's with CCFL backlighting. I could have gone with either, but I ended up going with this TV because I got a great deal on it and because my sound system and blue ray player (PS3) are Sony products - hello Bravia Synch. Some do think the picture quality on the Samsung is slightly better... but I found the differences to be virtually indiscernable to my eyes. Can't go wrong with either as Samsung and Sony are, IMO, the two greatest LCD TV makers right now... but Samsung seems to be pulling ahead lately.

Overall, fabulous TV... well worth the costs. One of the best top tier, large screen size TV's available with CCFL backlighting. LED backlighting is better, but it costs over double. So for non-early adopters, this is the way to go.

Sony Bravia XBR Series KDL-52XBR7 52-Inch 240Hz 1080p LCD HDTV

Product Description

Watch your favorite HD TV show, movie, or play your favorite videogame in extraordinary detail with the Sony� BRAVIA� KDL-52XBR7, the world's first 240Hz LCD TV. Featuring Full HD 1080p resolution, the BRAVIA� KDL-52XBR7 also boasts innovative Motionflow� 240Hz technology that quadruples the frame rate of standard HDTVs, providing unprecedented motion detail for a superior viewing experience. Additionally, its BRAVIA Engine� fully digital video processor further reduces noise, sharpens image detail, and improves color accuracy. Even more, the BRAVIA� KDL-52XBR7 has an Advanced Contrast Enhancer (ACE) dynamic backlight control that produces deep blacks in darker scenes without sacrificing shadow detail.

Product Details

• Amazon Sales Rank: #2543 in Consumer Electronics
• Color: Black
• Brand: Sony
• Model: KDL-52XBR7
• Released on: 2008-12-01
• Dimensions: 32.75" h x 4.87" w x 49.50" l, 94.00 pounds
• Display size: 52

Features

• 16:9 Full HD 1080p Resolution Panel (1920x1080)
• Motionflow¿ 240Hz further enhances motion performance
• DMex¿ capable
• BRAVIA Engine¿ 2
• Advanced Contrast Enhancer circuit (ACE)

Customer Reviews

Incredible!
I just received my TV today. All I can say is: OH MY GOD! The picture is gorgeous. The sound is incredible. Setup was a breeze. The guys delivering it were nice and courteous. They set it up for me, and even offered to take the packaging away (I kept it in case there were problems).

I've read reviews that state there were screen problems, especially with rain or fog. I don't see it. No artifacts, no blurring, nothing. I think as long as it is setup correctly, the problems don't occur. There are a lot of settings, but the menus are clean and easy to understand.

I am a little hard of hearing. My old TV was cranked to the max, and I could just hear it. Not my new Sony! Even at 50% it is too loud even for me.

Just a note (in case someone else has this problem): I initially didn't have sound at first through the HDMI cable (and panicked a little). The problem was I had to configure my cable box audio setting specifically to HDMI. You'd think as an engineer, I would have known...

The picture is awesome with my Oppo up-scaling DVD player (I don't have a Blu-ray yet).

A nice touch: because of the multitude of connectors on the TV (and the compactness of HDMI's combined audio/video cables) I was able to get rid of a huge rat's nest of cables (coaxial, composite, S-video, and various combiner/splitters).

Update:
I've had the TV for a few weeks now, and still love it. I bought one of those DVD kits to calibrate the color, et. al., but all I had to do was change the color setting from "vivid" to "standard." The TV's settings were already spot on!

I've also noticed that the picture is much better if you turn off a lot of the "extra" settings that affect the picture, like the CineMotion. I have a set of PAL DVDs that looked all jerky. I turned this off and now they look great. My NTSC DVDs were OK most of the time, but certain scenes were jerky. They now look great, too. The Motion Enhancer seems to be best at "Standard."

Awesome TV
I have been wanting a flat screen TV since the plasmas came out almost 10 years ago and were $40,000. ANd finally, I made the plunge and am very happy. Sony by far is the best and the 240hz motion flow is VERY noticable. I read a review where the guy said he could not tell at all. You can tell a LOT. Dont know what that guy was looking at. Anyway, it is pricey but I am happy with it. If you are sensitive to the LCD motion stutter, get the 240hz model...even if you have to wait a while for the price to come down. The only bad thing is one small software glitch when using one of the presentations methods in the slideshow feature (maze method freezes after about 10 pics, but other methods work fine). All in all this is a great TV and it has dropped over $800 dollars already since i bought it in December! Bad for me, good for you! Oh and for those people that are having trouble committing and research stuff to death... just do it. I killed myself researching plasmas vs. LCD and then the different types of LCDs etc and now that I have it, I am SOOO happy. Black scenes are always going to be a little different on an LCD, however the 240 motion flow far outweighs the occasional funny blacks...OH, and football is out of this world on it.

Sony BRAVIA S-Series KDL-52S5100 52-Inch 1080p LCD HDTV, Black

Product Description

Sony’s S-series TVs put amazing picture quality and stunning dynamic contrast in reach for value-oriented consumers who want to step up into the Sony Full HD 1080p experience. These TVs represent the entry-level models in Sony’s large screen offerings in 2009 and offer the superior resolution and contrast, advanced image processing features, and variety of HD input options available on high-end BRAVIA HDTVs -- all in an affordable package. With three HDMI connections, you can hook up a Sony PlayStation3 entertainment system, Blu-ray Disc player, or any other HDMI-capable equipment and get uncompressed digital video and multi-channel digital audio on a single cable. You also have numerous other HD connection options, including YPbPr Component inputs as well as a PC input for using your laptop or desktop PC with your big-screen HDTV. No matter which HD source you use, the exclusive Sony BRAVIA Engine 2 fully digital video processor ensures that images look sharp and brilliant. With BRAVIA Link compatibility, you can easily expand your high-resolution home theatre set-up with optional BRAVIA Wireless Link, BRAVIA DVD Link, or BRAVIA Input Link Modules. And BRAVIA Sync makes controlling everything a snap. Additionally, BRAVIA S-Series HDTVs exceed Energy Star 3.0 requirements by incorporating advanced power saving features such as Light Sensor technology that adjusts backlight intensity based on ambient room lighting conditions and Dynamic Backlight Control that adjusts backlight intensity based on the brightness of the image on the screen. Utilizing these features can reduce power consumption by up to 60% in a typical home theater environment.

Product Details

• Amazon Sales Rank: #3588 in Consumer Electronics
• Size: 52 Inch
• Color: Black
• Brand: Sony
• Model: KDL-52S5100
• Dimensions: 32.37" h x 4.62" w x 49.75" l, 65.90 pounds
• Display size: 52

Features

• A 52-inch 16:9 Full HD 1080p Resolution Panel provides optimum resolution from any HDTV source that delivers 1080p content
• Advanced Contrast Enhancer with Dynamic Backlight Control
• Unique Sony technologies to reduce visual noise, improve color, and sharpen overall image detail
• Three HDMI inputs (up to 1080/60p input capable) , two Component YPbPr (1080/60i capable), and one PC input (HD-15 pin)
• BRAVIA Link compatibility lets you expand HDTV's capabilities with BRAVIA Link modules (sold separately)

Customer Reviews

Upgrade and enjoy!.
Download the new TV's firmware upgrade of from Sony's web page, copy it to a flash drive, insert it in the USB port in the back of the TV, and the dim problem will be solved.

Nice TV
Bought it at the local BB a few months ago. Could've gotten more features from other brands at about the same price; or same features and size for less money but wife wanted a Sony, so for our budget we had to settle for this entry model. The set up was very easy and overall very user-friendly.

Had the same dimming problem many had. Tried to download the fix via Sony's website but the TV woudln't recognize any of my USB drive, so we called Sony to send a drive to us and problem mostly fixed. On some of the dark scenes it seems like the TV still want to dimm out but is fighting itself.

The stand feels kind of flimsy but is holding up so far. The internal speakers are surprisingly good. Not surround or anything but they are loud and relatively clean. The TV quality is good so for fast-action sport games.

Overall, it's a very nice unit.

Great bang for the buck
I picked this set up a week ago and must say that
I'm extremely pleased considering the price I paid.

I hooked it up to my cable providers HD box using a
dirt cheap HDMI cable. The factory default settings
are very good with no obvious deficiencies.

If your concerned about this set being only 60Hz, don't.
I have watched basketball and football on this set
and have not experienced any lagging, blurring, etc.

Yes it only has 3 HDMI inputs, but for me it's plenty enough.

I use 1 for my HD box connection and another for my PS3.
I'm currently shopping for a new surround sound system
which will use my 3rd and final input.

Speaking of sound, granted it's not the best coming out of
the set, but its not as bad as some may make it out to be.

All in all, I have to rank this as the best deal on the market
for a 52" LCD set. I spent 3 months researching and comparing
prices before I decided on this one.

Sony Bravia XBR KDL-46XBR8 46-Inch 1080p 120Hz Triluminos LED LCD HDTV

Product Description

The Sony BRAVIA XBR8-Series HDTVs represent the next step forward for Sony HDTV technology. Underpinning this advance is the TRILUMINOS RGB Dynamic LED backlight, which utilizes clusters of red, green, and blue LEDs to produce accurate colors and an amazingly realistic image, and employs local dimming to dynamically adjust the brightness of LED clusters, allowing the XBR8 to display deep blacks alongside bright whites for enhanced image depth and exceptional shadow detail. Motionflow 120Hz PRO technology creates new frames to double the frame rate, then uses sequential scanning to enhance motion and deliver a smoother and clearer picture, and 24p True Cinema lets you experience a cinema-like experience. BRAVIA XBR8-Series HDTVs also feature the powerful BRAVIA Engine 2 PRO fully digital video processor, which creates sharp, crystal-clear images at any resolution, as well as advanced color reproduction technologies including 10-bit processing and a 10-bit panel, Live Color Creation, and x.v.Color capability. DMex functionality lets you expand the capabilities of the BRAVIA XBR8-Series with optional BRAVIA Link modules, including the BRAVIA Internet Video Link, BRAVIA Wireless Link, BRAVIA DVD Link, and BRAVIA Input Link (all sold separately). In addition, the exclusive Xross Media Bar (XMB) user interface, integrated TV Guide Interactive Program Guide, and BRAVIA Sync one-touch component control make the BRAVIA XBR8-Series HDTVs easy to use, and the large number of inputs offer you a wide range of connectivity options. BRAVIA XBR8-Series HDTVs also feature an RS-232C connection for integration into home automation systems. You can even customize the timeless design of the BRAVIA XBR8-Series by adding optional speaker grilles available in a selection of designer colors (sold separately)

Product Details

• Amazon Sales Rank: #2774 in Consumer Electronics
• Color: Black
• Brand: Sony
• Model: KDL46XBR8
• Released on: 2008-11-01
• Dimensions: 27.00" h x 5.75" w x 49.62" l, 73.00 pounds
• Display size: 46

Features

• 16:9 Full HD 1080p Resolution Panel (1920x1080)
• TRILUMINOS RGB Dynamic LED Backlight Display
• BRAVIA Engine 2 PRO fully digital video processor
• Motionflow 120Hz PRO technology
• DMex capable

Customer Reviews

A pricey HDTV that produces stunning images
People complain a lot about this TV's price. It's expensive. But if you're picky about what you watch and you have a lot of windows in your house, this HDTV LCD is definitely worth the extra bucks--especially since Amazon has free shipping and discount rates.

I was surprised how small the box was that this came it. It doesn't have a ton of protection around it. There is a thin film layer of plastic that protects the front bezel, which easily comes off. I did not use the stand, but put it on a swivel mount. Setup of the TV was very easy and the image outstanding, with beautiful colors and details right out of the box. By the way, a nice touch is that the TV's serial number is on the outside of the batteries for the remote control--which I wish I'd realized before searching the entire back of the TV with a flashlight (it was also on the back, but partly obscured by the swivel mount I'd used).

You see some folks who talk about "poor" off angle viewing and "blooming." I honestly haven't noticed either one. This thing looks great from a range of angles, the picture phenomenal.

The TV speakers are okay but not great. If you're going to watch a lot of movies--and trust me, with this screen you're going to want to--I'd recommend getting the Sony BDV-1000ES and an HDMI cable. That way you get theatre-quality sound to match the picture and the Bravia Link means the two will communicate well with each other, and respond to one remote control. Then, just pop in a blu-ray disk, kick back, and enjoy. This is one great TV.

Expensive but one of the best
This set is one of the best 5 flat panel sets being produced. The others include the Pioneer Kuro PRO-111FD plasma and Samsung LN46A950 which also has LED back lighting. All are expensive so it's best to see all in person before you decide. The Kuro has been the gold standard for flat panels for some time, and rightly so, but the LCD sets with LED back lighting are now very close.

Some reviewers have niggled about off angel viewing and color blooming but that is picking the finest of nits. The off angle viewing is as good as all but a very few CCL backlit LCD or plasma sets so I'm not sure what that's all about. I have a pivoting wall mount so problem solved. As for the blooming, it is so minor as to not be visible unless you are right at the screen looking for it and is not noticeable in normal use.

The XBR8 will work better in a room with normal light levels than the Kuro and also renders standard definition programs better than the Kuro. It also beats the lone 1st generation LED set at rendering SD.

The LED back lighting generates less heat than an LCD set with cold cathode back lighting and much less heat than a plasma due to it's lower electrical current draw. Each individual LED cluster is controlled dynamically so that they are shut completely off during dark scenes producing the same absolute black levels as the best plasma sets. The LED back light elements have a service life of something like 20,000hrs so replacement is not necessary. They also will not fade over time like a plasma set does.

Whether this set is worth the money is a matter each person has to decide for themselves. Those that can afford one are very unlikely to ever become disappointed with the image. If you do buy one you owe it to yourself to get a full calibration done by an ISF certified tech in order to get all the potential out of this set.

Truly a window to the world.
I purchased this TV one month ago. It is a replacement for my XBR4 which is being enjoyed in its new home. Shopping and looking, then I saw it. It was love at first sight. And it is a sight to behold. Crystal clear, vibrant realistic colors, and a beautiful design. Sony has outdone itself with a new benchmark for the industry. You will not be disappointed with this beauty. This is TV as it has never been. Coupled with my FIOS HD service and a blu-ray player there's little reason to ever attend a movie theater. Although my Bose surround system is the perfect mate to this TV, the eight built-in speakers leave little to be desired. Check it out, you'll see TV like never before.

Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-40W5100 40-Inch 1080p 120Hz LCD HDTV

Product Description

Enjoy the latest in HDTV performance with the 40-Inch Sony BRAVIA KDL-40W5100. Experience Sony's motion detail and clarity with Motionflow 120Hz technology. Features built-in BRAVIA Internet Video capabilities so you can access and stream on-demand movies, TV shows. You can also personalize your viewing experience with widgets containing the latest news, weather, and stock information.

Product Details

• Amazon Sales Rank: #3707 in Consumer Electronics
• Color: Black
• Brand: Sony
• Model: KDL40W5100
• Released on: 2009-05-24
• Dimensions: 25.63" h x 12.00" w x 37.75" l, 42.10 pounds
• Display size: 40

Features

• Motionflow 120Hz technology reduces judder and sharpens fast-moving images for a crisp, more natural picture
• The built-in BRAVIA Internet Video feature allows you to access select on-demand entertainment available through your broadband connection
• Select and personalize your entertainment experience with widgets on your BRAVIA HDTV

Customer Reviews

It's about time
I have been waiting for quite some time to buy a new tv. Originally I planned on getting the 40" Z series last year. But when the new models came out this year, the 40" W series offered everything I was looking for a little bit cheaper price. It has a good looking profile and was a snap to set-up. I used the Cheetah tilting mount that I also purchased from amazon. Don't let anyone fool you. The Cheetah mount is just as good or better than the expensive mounts. I already had a ps3 so the XMB menu system was very familiar. This is a great tv for the money.

The only con I can think of is that the remote doesn't have a 1 button sleep timer. You have to go through the menus.

BTW: Amazon did a great job. I order TV on a Thursday and the following Wednesday the tv was hanging on my wall. Nice Service.

Great TV Great Price
This is a great buy I have several LCDs HD around the house and did my research before this buy. The video quality is great. Clear and vivid colors. Motionflow is a plus, great for sports. Movies look great especially Bluray on 1080p. The picture looks like its going to pop out of the screen. This tv has great features as you can see, plus the xcross feature is sleek. You can watch Youtube on the tv; program weather,stock and news widgets plus tweeter and more to come (must have a broadband connection). You can also connect to your home network to access movies,pictures and music from your computer(s) to watch on your tv. The design of the tv is clean and does not look cheap, the frame around the screen is no more then an 1 1/2inch thick. The stand is rectangular and has a nice glossy finish. Has a multitude of input connectors. Great tv. No problems. The sound is fine for regular programing but if you want to enjoy movie quality sound don't expect the tv's speakers to do it unless your in a small room, so if you want great sound with this great tv just invest in a home theater system (Sony Bravia Home Theaters have a great kick)

Amazing set of features, clarity and even this non-sport fan needed these capabilities
I spend weeks researching before I make a major purchase. It is my own way of always avoiding any buyer's remorse. And I certainly will never experience buyer's remorse with this purchase.

W series means less blur: First I should note that while it may seem the tv is geared towards the sports fan market due to it's excellent ability to show fast action with less blur than many other tvs of it's class, I can wholeheartedly say I am not that target market. However, the same features that make this an excellent tv to capture the sudden moves of your favorite team with accuracy also carry over into a great picture during gaming or doing an aerobic routine on the fitness channel. And that I do. The 120Hz processing also enables additional improved motion resolution.

Color: Deep shades of black, accurate color, excellent picture quality even compared to a tv we have that's far more expensive.

Gadgets: This tv features Sony's new "interactivity suite" typically seen on it's far more expensive models. This means you get Yahoo widgets, which is content from the internet, downloaded and activated directly from the tv screen. Yes, that means you can watch tv and twitter or get the weather or your finance info or the news while you watch tv on the side of the screen, for example. Information overload in a good way. You can move these widgets around your screen and place them where you wish, if you want to use them at all. The Net and TV Combined: Nothing on tv? You also have internet channels (which I tried to list in my review but Amazon deleted due to considering them "links") available on the tv.

High def video enabled: Aditionally, this tv comes with an internet video link built in to the tv (many others I looked at enabled you to add a box for a couple hundred dollars in order to get this.) This means you can get high def videos on demand from places such as Amazon Video On Demand.


Modes: In order to get the best experience no matter what you are doing on the tv it comes with presets such as "cinema, game, pc, and sports" to automatically enable best viewing presets for what is on the screen and eliminate delays in gaming, etc.

Looks: Sleek and sharp. The frame is 1.5" from the edge of the picture to the edge of the tv at top and sices with a slightly wider frame at the bottom (much like how you'd frame a photograph in a matt)

Digital Media Accessibility: Use the photo, music, and video category icons to access photo, music, and video files from DLNA certified networked equipment or Sony USB equipment. If you are showing your slideshow of a recent vacation, the tv also enables you to add music to the slideshow by selecting "slideshow music" and "browse music".

Your own screen saver: Background tv uses the current video on your tv to create images that are similar to a screen saver. Watching an underwater show and want your screen to look like a fishtank when you are having a party? Tune to that channel before the party and follow instructions to create a screen saver you can save in "favorites" and launch at any time.

TV Guide on screen included in tv functions shows tv programming info

And the experts say: CNET says "The W5100 delivers better picture quality than most standard LCDs out there, making it a well-rounded package if you have the extra cash and really want streaming video on your tv." (the price has gone down since that review.)

Additionally, I liked the fact that the price on Amazon was great and I didn't have to pay taxes or cost to have it delivered as I would here locally which made it even more of a bargain. (at least at the time of my review shipping was free and there was no tax)

Negatives: None with the tv but getting this from FedEx was tricky. We weren't notified when they were to arrive and received a note that would redeliver or we could go pick it up. Not knowing what time they come by, we actually went to the FedEx place and shoved this tv in the box in a smartcar. Yes, a smartcar. The smallest car there is. Fortunately, it was a convertible so it stuck out the top. Alot. It was either that or skip a day of work and we couldn't at the time...so...get your FedEx delivery schedule when you are getting your tv if you share a similar fate.

Conclusion: Amazing picture with more extras than I could imagine for this pricepoint. It's in our workout room but I like it better than our more expensive tv we have in the living room. No way am I uninstalling and reinstalling both though to change them out...plus I like the fact that it provides clear fast motion for my wicked aerobic moves. (grin)

Sony BRAVIA V-Series KDL-40V5100 40-Inch 1080p 120Hz LCD HDTV

Product Description

For consumers who want an HDTV that keeps pace with fast-action movies, sports, and game play, Sony BRAVIA V-Series Flat Panel HDTVs combine Full HD 1080p performance and Motionflow 120Hz technology for an amazing viewing experience. Motionflow 120Hz takes both high-definition and standard programming a step further by increasing sharpness and detail in fast-moving images for more fluid, natural motion. In addition, BRAVIA V-Series HDTVs use proprietary Image Blur Reduction technology to further enhance the picture for even better performance. The HDTVs also feature BRAVIA Engine 2 technology, which uses exclusive Sony algorithms to reduce visual noise and sharpen and enhance an already-striking dynamic contrast ratio. Additionally, they include seven versatile HD connections to ensure you get impressive image quality from all your HD components. Take advantage of four HDMI inputs, component and composite inputs, and a PC input, as well as a USB input that lets you play audio files from USB storage devices, or connect a compatible camera to your HDTV for a quick and easy slide show. Sony knows your home theater set-up doesn't stop with your HDTV, which is why the BRAVIA V-Series HDTVs are compatible with BRAVIA Link Modules -- including the BRAVIA Wireless Link, BRAVIA DVD Link, and BRAVIA Input Link Modules (all sold separately). The HDTVs also support BRAVIA SyncTM technology so you can control all of your compatible devices with a single remote. And all BRAVIA HDTVs exceed ENERGY STAR 3.0 requirements for in-use and stand-by power consumption, meaning you don't need a lot of power to get a lot of performance.

Product Details

• Amazon Sales Rank: #3560 in Consumer Electronics
• Color: Black
• Brand: Sony
• Model: KDL-40V5100
• Dimensions: 25.12" h x 3.75" w x 38.87" l, 37.30 pounds
• Native resolution: 1920 x 1080
• Display size: 40

Features

• 40-inch 16:9 Full HD 1080p Resolution Panel provides optimum resolution from any HDTV source that delivers 1080p content
• Dynamic contrast works in real time to produce deep blacks in darker scenes, as well as fine details in shadows and other dark areas
• Engineered for fast-action sports, movies and games, Motionflow 120Hz technology further reduces blurriness
• Seven HD inputs, including four HDMI inputs (up to 1080/60p capable), HD component and combo inputs (1080/60i capable), and a PC input
• BRAVIA Link compatibility lets you expand your HDTV's capabilities with BRAVIA Link modules, such as BRAVIA DVD Link, BRAVIA Wireless Link

Customer Reviews

Excellent TV, Auto contrast can now be turned off!
First things first, THEY FIXED THE AUTO-CONTRAST! I have nothing but good things to say about this TV. Do not be fooled by the 1 star ratings. All those 1 star ratings complain about the auto contrast/brightness feature which could not be turned off, but SONY FIXED IT ALREADY in the newer units or a software update via sony.com will add the controls to turn the function off.

With that biggest gripe fixed, this TV has outstanding visual clarity and the color saturation is beautiful. Black levels are excellent on this non glossy screen. You can't go wrong with a Sony and the software update shows they are listening to their customer base. No dead/stuck pixel, great viewing angles, 120hz refresh is great for sports, but in my opinion, not for movies. Excellent TV, I would buy another one of these without hesitation, superior when compared to the other brands that offer the same features. The Bravia V series lives up to the Sony name and quality standards you would expect. Deserves all 5 of the stars it's rated.

Excellent TV
Update May 3, 2009:

My original review of the TV was negative due to a problem of dimming during dark scenes. But few days ago Sony released a software patch to correct the problem and it worked for me. Now, the auto dimming can be turned off by setting the "Adv. Contrast Enhancer" to Off. Also, even when it's turned On, it doesn't behave like it did pre- patch, it now dims gradually rather than abruptly and it doesn't dim as much as it did before. Thank you very much Sony, I'm updating my rating to 5-star.

I'm very happy with the TV now that the auto dim is fixed. If you own the TV and having problems with the dimming, go to the support section of Sony's site to download the patch and the instructions on how to apply it. You will need a USB thumb drive formatted in FAT32, but if you don't have it, Sony will mail you one if you call their customer support.

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Original review:
Date: April 8, 2009
Rating: 2 stars

When I purchased this TV few days ago, there were no reviews here since it's just been recently released into the market. I, however, looked at the reviews of the previous model (KDL-40V4100) and didn't find any serious complaints so I went ahead and purchased this TV. I regret my purchase and will explain why.

This is my third LCD TV -- the others are early generations LCDs from Sharp and Sony and they are still working great, but they are no match for the picture quality of this new Sony. There are a lot of good things about this TV and I would have given it 5 stars if not for one serious flaw.

The TV dims during dark scenes. And sadly it doesn't do it gradually, it happens abruptly 6 seconds after the start of a dark scene and it returns to normal lighting abruptly about 0.35 seconds after end of a dark scene. It seems to happen regardless of the source of input (I tested it with composite, and HDMI) and it happens on broadcast channels and cable and regardless of the "picture mode" and other video settings. There is no way to disable it. If you're watching a movie with lots of dark scenes, it's going to be a very annoying experience.

Take this example, while watching a documentary on first gulf war, there was a lot of night vision camera scenes and the TV keeps dimming during the lengthy dark scenes and when it does that, you can barely make out any details even with Gamma set at max. The dimmer kicking in and out is annoying by itself, much less the picture quality when it dims.

I contacted Sony support and they seemed clueless and recommended I initiate a repair request. I did an internet search only to discover many Bravia models suffer this problem. I initially thought I had a defective unit, but now I think it was intentionally designed like this.

Overall a great TV
Update: You can now download the firmware update for this TV at the link below. It will fix the auto-dimming problem. I would now give it 5 stars: [...]

With this fix being made, I would now say that the TV deserves five stars.

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I have owned this TV for about two weeks now and think it is great. The picture is very sharp. The colors are great. The blacks and whites look fabulous. The stand it comes with is very sturdy and there are more than enough inputs for my needs. The TV itself also looks very elegant.

I was going to buy this 2009 TV or the 2008 Sony KDL-40Z4100 (a higher end model from the previous year), whichever came down in price first. The two TVs are very comparable in features. The main difference for me was price but also important were the contrast ratios. This TV has a contrast ratio of 50:000 to 1 while the KDL-40Z4100 has a contrast ratio of 30:000 to 1. As a further comparison, the 2008 version of this TV, the KDL-40V4100, has a 25:000 to 1 contrast ratio. That big jump in contrast ratio pushed me towards this TV over last year's Z series.

I have read the reviews describing the auto-dimming but honestly I don't think it is that big of a deal. We watch mostly TV (Lost, 24, The Office, sports, etc.) as opposed to movies and after two weeks of use, today was the very first day I noticed the auto-dimming. It happened for about 2 seconds and was a strange dimming. My wife still has not noticed it even though we have both been on the lookout for it to see how bad it is.

While I agree that I cannot see how this is a feature Sony would want to include without being able to turn off, to me, it was pretty minor and I would still happily buy the same TV again. I suppose that there are shows or movies where this happens more frequently but after two weeks, I still don't see it often. I took off a half star for this.

The other half star taken off comes from what seems like a long time for the TV to start. Once you turn it on it seems like it takes around 20 seconds to get started and display a picture. It isn't a huge deal and once the TV is on it doesn't affect anything. However, compared to my old CRT which turned on in a couple of seconds it seems long.

My hope is that Sony comes out with some sort of firmware update that allows you to turn this auto-dimming "feature" off as many customers are unhappy with it. That is pure speculation though as I haven't heard any hints of this happening.